This month Jenny had the privilege to meet with Gertrude Howley, a member of the Grow Mental Health community since the 1980s. Gertrude is a Presentation Sister, therapist, educator, and advocator for positive mental health. She and Jenny discuss the cyclical nature of support both in our Grow Groups and in life. Don’t miss this exciting discussion that includes some of the history of Grow, why boundaries are so important, what self-care really means, and how carrying the message and not the person is the key to learning self-support.